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Mount Carmel Park, Firhouse, Dublin 24

Refused

Planning application SD15A/0336

Dublin - South Dublin County Council

Proposed Development

Residential development consisting of 72 dwelling units including vehicular access from Firhouse Road, all associated site and infrastructural works including foul and surface water drainage, 106 car parking spaces, landscaping and public open space, boundary walls and fences, roads, cyclepaths and footpaths all on a site area of appoximately 2.3 hectares. The site is within the curtilage of a Protected Structure (RPS reference 284). The development consists of 22 no. 2 storey 2 bed and 3 bed semi-detached houses, 8 corner blocks comprising 24 no. 3 storey 2 bed apartment units with balconies and 8 no. 2 storey 3 bed duplex units and 2 blocks comprising 18 no. 3 storey 1 bed& 2 bed apartments as follows: (a) 18 no. 3 bed semi-detached houses (House Type B); (b) 4 no. 2 bed semi-detached houses (House Type A); (c) 24 no. 2 bed corner apartments (Apartment Type 02, 03, 04); (D) 8 no. 3 bed corner duplex units (Apartment Type 01); (e) 6 no. 1 bed apartments (Apartment Type 02); (f) 12 no. 2 bed apartments (Apartment Type 01,03,04). The proposal also includes the provision of approximately 0.7 hectares of land to the north of the subject site boundary to be transferred into public ownership as part of the Dodder Valley public open space. All this on a site adjacent to the Carmel of the Assumption Convent, Firhouse Road and to the west of the residential development at Mount Carmel Park, Dublin 24.

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Application Timeline

  1. Application received

    11 Nov 2015

  2. Decision: Refuse Permission

    6 Jan 2016

  3. Decision due

    14 Jan 2016

  4. Appeal submitted

    4 Feb 2016

  5. Appeal decided: Refuse Permission

    2 Jun 2016

Application Details

Location
Mount Carmel Park, Firhouse, Dublin 24
Applicant
N/A
Application Type
Permission
Planning Authority
South Dublin County Council
Site Area
23000 ha
Floor Area
10405 sq m
Residential Units
72

Timeline

Registration Date
11 November 2015
Status
Appeal decided
Decision
Refuse Permission
Decision Date
6 January 2016
Permission Expires
4 June 2016

An Coimisiún Pleanála Appeal

Appeal Reference
PL06S.246101
Status
Appeal decided
Decision
Refuse Permission
Submitted
4 February 2016
Decided
2 June 2016

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42m
SD25A/0006WWithdraw the Application14 Jan 2025

The construction of a 24m long by 6m high Gaa (skills) wall and all associated site works.

Lands adjacent to Carmel of the Assumption Convent, Firhouse Road, Firhouse, Dublin 24

42m
SD25A/0007WInvalidate Application14 Jan 2025

The Installation of 6no. floodlights on 18m high columns around the previously consented Pitch One (Planning Reference SD20A/0140)

Lands adjacent to Carmel of the Assumption Convent, Firhouse Road, Firhouse, Dublin 24

42m
SD20A/0140Granted11 May 2021

Construction of 2 grass playing pitches: pitch No.1 will measure some 145m long by 90m wide and pitch No.2 will measure some 133m long by 80m wide; club facilities including 4 changing rooms measuring 51sq.m each; storage facilities; function rooms; meeting rooms; physiotherapy facilities; kitchen facilities; wc and circulation space; site works include removal of existing hedgerows and trees; replanting areas; formation of a new pedestrian and vehicular entrance on Firhouse road; 67 car parking spaces; 24 bicycle spaces; perimeter pathway; fencing and attendant landscaping works.

Lands adjacent to Carmel of the Assumption Convent, Firhouse Road, Firhouse, Dublin 24

42m
SD25A/0048WRefused4 Mar 2025

The Installation of 6no. floodlights on 18m high columns around the previously consented Pitch One (Planning Reference SD20A/0140)

Lands adjacent to Carmel of the Assumption Convent, Firhouse Road, Firhouse, Dublin 24

89m
LRD26A/0001WGranted2 Jun 2026

Permission for a Large Scale Residential Development LRD at No. 2 Firhouse Road and the former Morton's The Firhouse Inn. The proposed development seeks amendments to the previously approved Largescale Residential Development LRD granted under Reg. Ref. LRD24A/0001 ABP Ref. 319568 24. The proposed amendments include a reduction in the footprint of the basement levels, amendments to the housing mix and elevations of Block A and Block B, amended roof profile, provision of surface level parking, and relocation of substation. The revised application is seeking permission for a total of 83 no. housing units (100 no. units applied for and 78 no. units granted by An Bord Pleanála), providing an increase of 5 no. units within the building footprint granted within Reg. Ref. LRD24A/0001 ABP Ref. 319568 24. The proposal provides for 2 no. blocks ranging in height from 3 to 4 storeys over basement levels comprising 4 no. duplex units, 2 no. 1 bedroom units, 1 no. 2 bedroom 3 person unit, and 1 no. 2 bedroom 4 person unit and 79 no. apartment units 1 no. studio units, 54 no. 1 bedroom units, 5 no. 2 bedroom 3 person units, and 19 no. 2 bedroom 4 person units. The apartment blocks will consist of the following: Block 01 Amendments to the previously permitted 3 storey rising to 4 storey over basement levels, comprising 54 units 2 no. studio units, 15 no. 1 bedroom units, 4 no. 2 bedroom 3 person units, 13 no. 2 bedroom 4 person units, along with 4 no. duplex units comprising 2 no. 1 bedroom units, and 2 no. 2 bedroom 3person units, to now provide for a 3 storey rising to 4 storey over basement levels comprising of 38 no. units as follows 1 no. studio unit, 16 no. 1 bedroom units, 4 no. 2 bedroom 3 person units, 13 no. 2 bedroom 4 person units, along with 4 no. duplex units comprising 2 no. 1 bedroom units, and 1 no. 2 bedroom 3 person unit and 1 no. 2 bedroom 4 person unit. Each unit will have its own private open space in the form of a private balcony or terraced area. Block 02 Amendments to the previously permitted 4 storey over basement levels comprising 40 units 18 no. 1 bedroom units, 2 no. 2 bedroom 3 person units, 17 no. 2 bedroom 4 person units, and 2 no. 3 bedroom units, to now provide a 4 storey over basement levels comprising of 45 no. units as follows 38 no. 1 bedroom units, 1 no. 2 bedroom 3 person units, and 6 no. 2 bedroom 4 person units. Each unit will have its own private open space in the form of a private balcony or terraced area. The development will also provide for amendments to the permitted 395.2 sq. m. of commercial space including 1 no. office and 1 no. café located on the ground floor of Block 01, 1 no. creche and associated play area to the rear of Block 01, 1 no. barber between Block 01 and Block 02 and 1 no. bookmaker and medical consultancy, located on the ground floor of Block 02 to now provide for 423.5 sq. m. of commercial space as follows 1 no. office and 1 no. café located on the ground floor of Block 01. 1 no. creche and associated play area to the rear of Block 01. 1 no. barber between Block 01 and Block 02. 1 no. bookmaker and medical consultancy, located on the ground floor of Block 02. The proposed development will also provide for 63 no. car parking spaces including accessible parking and Electric Vehicle parking across basement, lower ground floor levels, and surface car parking, 196 no. bicycle parking spaces, 5 no. motorbike parking spaces; landscaping, including communal open space and public open space and children's play spaces, SuDS measures boundary treatment public lighting, re-located ESB substation plant and waste storage areas, associated signage details, all associated site and infrastructure works necessary to facilitate the development, with 1 no. pedestrian and cyclist access from Firhouse Road and 1 no. pedestrian and cyclist access from Mount Carmel Park, as granted under Reg. Ref. LRD24/A0001 ABP Ref. 319568 24.

No. 2 Firhouse Road and the former Morton’s The Firhouse Inn, Firhouse Road, Dublin 24, The site is also bound by Mount Carmel Park to the east

89m
LRD24A/0001Granted2 Feb 2024

Demolition of all existing structures on site, including the 2 storey building formally used as public house ancillary off-licence & associated structures on the east of the site; a 2-storey building comprising an existing barber shop and betting office to the west of the site; single storey cottage building and associated structures in the centre of the site; and gated entrance from Mount Carmel Park. The proposal includes the construction of 100 no. residential units within 2 no. blocks ranging in height from 3-5 storeys (over lower ground floor and basement level) comprising 96 no. apartments, (providing 3 no. studio units, 45 no. 1 bedroom units, 9 no. 2 bedroom (3 person) units, 36 no. 2 bedroom (4 person) units and 3 no. 3 bedroom units); and 4 no. duplex units (providing 2 no. 1-bedroom units and 2 no. 2 bedroom (4 person) units). The apartment blocks will consist of the following: * Block 01 - 5 storey apartment block (3 storeys rising to 5 storey over basement levels) comprising 48 no. apartment units as follows: 2 no. studio units, 22 no. 1 bedroom units and 20 no. 2 bedroom apartments units, along with 4 no. duplex units comprising 2 no. 1 bedroom units and 2 no. 2 bedroom duplex units. Each unit will have its own private open space in the form of a private balcony or terraced area. * Block 02 - 5 storey apartment block (over basement levels) comprising 52 no. apartment units as follows: 1 no. studio unit, 23 no. 1 bedroom units and 25 no. 2 bedroom units and 3 no. 3 bedroom units. Each unit will have its own private open space in the form of a private balcony or terraced area. The development will also provide for 342 sq. m. of non-residential/commercial development as follows: - 1 no. café and 1 no. office located at ground floor level of block 01 fronting onto Firhouse Road; - 1 no. creche and associated play area to the rear of Block 01; - 1 no. barbershop at ground floor level located between Block 01 and Block 02 fronting Firhouse Road; - 1 no. bookmaker and 1 no. medical consultancy at ground floor level of Block 02, fronting onto Firhouse Road. The proposed development will provide for 80 no. car parking spaces including accessible parking and Electric Vehicle parking across basement and lower ground floor levels; set down area; 270 no. bicycle parking spaces; 8 no. motorbike parking spaces; landscaping, including communal open space and public open space and children's play spaces; SuDS measures; boundary treatment; public lighting; ESB substation; plant and waste storage areas; associated signage details; all associated site and infrastructure works necessary to facilitate the development, including the relocation of existing watermain and surface water sewer on the site; vehicular access to the development will be via the existing access off the Firhouse Road, with 1 no. pedestrian and cyclist access from Firhouse Road and 1 no. pedestrian and cyclist access from Mount Carmel Park.

No. 2 Firhouse Road and the former Morton’s The Firhouse Inn, Firhouse Road, Dublin 24

89m
SHD3ABP-313777-22Refused10 Jun 2022

Demolition of all existing structures on site (c. 1,326 sq m), including: Two storey building formally used as public house, ancillary off-licence and associated structures (c. 972 sq m); Two storey building comprising an existing barber shop and betting office (c. 260 sq m); Single storey cottage building and associated structures (c. 94 sq m); and Eastern boundary wall and gated entrance from Mount Carmel Park. The development with a total gross floor area of c. 11,638 sq m, will consist of 100 residential units arranged in 2 blocks (Blocks 01 and 02) ranging between 3 and 5 storeys in height, over lower ground floor and basement levels, comprising: 96 apartments (consisting of 2 studio units; 45 one bedroom units; 10 two bedroom (3 person) units; 34 two bedroom (4 person) units; and 5 three bedroom units), together with private (balconies and private terraces) and communal amenity open space provision at podium and roof levels; and 4 duplex apartments (consisting of 2 one bedroom units and 2 two bedroom units (4 person) located within Block 01, together with private balconies and terraces. Also included is non-residential uses (c. 355 sq m), including: 1 café (c. 58 sq m) and 1 office (c. 30 sq m) located at ground floor level of Block 01; 1 medical unit (c. 59 sq m) and 1 betting office (c. 66 sq m) located at ground floor level of Block 02; 1 barber shop (c. 28 sq m) located at ground floor level between Blocks 01 and 02; and 1 crèche (c. 114 sq m) located at lower ground floor level of Block 01 and associated outdoor play area to the rear. Vehicular access to the site will be from the existing access off Firhouse Road. The proposal includes minor alterations to the existing access, including the provision of new and enhanced pedestrian infrastructure. The development will also consist of the provision of public open space and related play areas; hard and soft landscaping including internal roads, cycle and pedestrian routes, pathways and boundary treatments, street furniture, basement car parking (80 spaces in total, including accessible spaces); motorcycle parking; electric vehicle charging points; bicycle parking (long and short stay spaces including stands); ESB substations, piped infrastructural services and connections to existing public services, (including relocation of existing surface water sewer and water main from within the application site onto the public roads area along Firhouse Road and Mount Carmel Park); ducting; plant; waste management provision; SuDS measures; stormwater management and attenuation; sustainability measures; signage; changes in levels; public lighting; and all ancillary site development and excavation works above and below ground. The application contains a statement setting out how the proposal will be consistent with the objectives of the South Dublin County Council Development Plan 2016-2022 and the South Dublin County Development Plan 2022-2028. The application contains a statement indicating why permission should be granted for the proposed development, having regard to a consideration specified in section 37(2)(b) of the Planning and Development Act 2000, as amended, notwithstanding that the proposed development materially contravenes the South Dublin County Council Development Plan 2016-2022 and the South Dublin County Development Plan 2022-2028 other than in relation to the zoning of the land.

Mortons, The Firhouse Inn, Firhouse Road, Dublin 24, D24 YYR4

90m
S01A/0591Granted10 Dec 2001

Bus Shelter.

On Firhouse Road at Firhouse Store.

112m
S01A/0594Granted10 Dec 2001

Bus shelter.

On Firhouse Road at junction with Ballycullen Road.

124m
SD17A/0279Granted22 Jan 2018

Demolition of existing garage and construction of semi-detached two-storey, three bedroom dwelling house with new vehicular entrance and associated landscaping, boundary and site devlopment works.

Side of 1, Mount Carmel Park, Knocklyon, Dublin 24, D24 E9T4

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